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Ted Lasso ([personal profile] theodorelasso) wrote in [community profile] trashchildren2021-06-24 07:33 pm

For Joan

Continued from here.

(warnings: sexytimes. also, panic attacks, brutal violence, attempted murder, discussion of suicide and actual murder... )
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Joan is glad Ted mentioned it. She knows it can be helpful to have people who know about your struggles with addiction who you can turn to. It's one of the reasons 12 step programs can be so helpful. She hopes Beard knows that if he ever has any problems in that arena, he can turn to Joan as well as Ted.

"The two of you work so well together. It's really impressive."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
"I think you do more than just know the game," Joan says with a smile. "You're helping people too, even if it's in a different way. And you're helping Ted. You keep him grounded. It's a role I have some personal experience with." It isn't a one-to-one comparison, but in a very real way Joan plays a similar role with Sherlock.
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
She laughs softly. "Oh yeah," she says, taking a sip of her own coffee as well. It's probably a bigger part of her role than in Beard's, although she can see Ted's optimism needing to be brought to earth at times.
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
"Mmm," Joan says, lowering her coffee. "With Sherlock it's pretty much the exact opposite. He can get so wrapped up in a case that he forgets that there are human beings involved. He's better about it now than he used to be, but he can still be offensive. Usually unintentionally, although not always."

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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
"Not really, no. Most of the interactions Ted's had with Sherlock have been mediated by Sherlock wanting to treat him well because he's important to me." She tilts her head. "Why, what has Ted said about him?"
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
"Ah," she says with a nod. That makes sense. "Yeah. Honestly, I think Sherlock was taken aback by Ted's friendliness. People don't usually get along with Sherlock right off the bat. I certainly didn't, although again, that was a while ago."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
She smiles. He has a point.

"Yes. I didn't know what to make of it at first. Just from an investigative standpoint, usually people that effusively friendly either have something to hide or are unable to see the flaws of those around them. When I found out that was wrong, that Ted is absolutely genuine in his friendliness and optimism while also being fully aware of the difficult realities of his players...well. That's when I knew I wanted to get to know him."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
"That's true," she concedes. "Although I didn't really fully realize that until recently. How much he's protecting himself with that friendliness. Maybe a better way to put it is that he doesn't have an ulterior motive. He wasn't being intentionally friendly in order to pull the wool over my eyes or manipulate me somehow. The extent to which he does that to protect himself is unintentional. I think it's a reflex at this point."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
"There are," she agrees, her voice soft and a little sad. Joan has been known to have her own maladaptive behaviors to protect herself. One of which being to shut down and distance herself, which Beard has seen in all it's heartbreaking glory. One might think she's punishing herself, not protecting herself, but isn't that a twisted sort of protection? Punishing herself so that others won't punish her? Or...worse...forgive her?

"Sherlock usually pushes people away. Ted just refused to be pushed."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
She hums, considering that. "Usually when I think of boundary issues, I think of people who are either oblivious to boundaries or just think they don't apply to them. That's definitely not Ted. That is, however, frequently Sherlock."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
"But then he's thinking about Rebecca, not himself," she counters. "He's pushing the boundary with a purpose, instead of just disregarding it because he thinks he's too cool for school."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Joan laughs a little at that. "Fair enough," she says with a smile. "He cares whether he hurts people, though," she points out. "Not everyone does."
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[personal profile] formersurgeon 2021-10-16 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"Do you think Ted would agree with that?" she asks, out of curiosity instead of reproach. She's pretty sure he wouldn't.

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